tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post6141125560971735229..comments2024-03-03T04:00:18.516-08:00Comments on THE INFERNO OF BLADES: GW Business discussion: Good Army Boxes, huh???Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-12341846943879088372011-12-08T16:47:09.317-08:002011-12-08T16:47:09.317-08:00so i was looking at those boxes and thinking, &quo...so i was looking at those boxes and thinking, "wow, those new boxes are a good idea!" then I noticed something. 36% savings on the newer boxes is good, but its less than the older boxes. That means more appeal and less savings! Someone at GW should congratulate themselves on that. <br /><br />Additionally, it gets to buy models you wouldn't normally buy. The land raider makes no sense! its a redeemer, so its an assault vehicle. but there is no squad there that is assaulty! so extra cash there. And as someone above mentioned, too many of the wrong DE units as well, plus no leader. So extra profit there with the inherent upsizing, due to you buying models you wouldn't otherwise. <br /><br />while i like the better options, its amusing to see the costs are also overall moderately higher. Honestly though, this is what GW price hikes should be like. A barely noticable increase, and in return you get a fantastic model selection.shas'el mikehttp://shootfirstthenjump.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-90361557817719718532011-12-08T07:44:43.430-08:002011-12-08T07:44:43.430-08:00I don't really use a Land Speeder Storm, but i...I don't really use a Land Speeder Storm, but it is one of those units that if used properly could throw someone off just a little bit. I must say though, I loved the idea of the LSS when it first came out.<br /><br />DukeDukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975831209122743251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-51278262671811118702011-12-08T00:45:26.104-08:002011-12-08T00:45:26.104-08:00@rick: i do. if more people thought outside of the...@rick: i do. if more people thought outside of the box, they would realize that scouts are excellent, rather cheap objective holders that can still provide you with some (unreliable) missles. the thing is though, giving the other scouts bolters or sr is pretty much wasted. ccw on the other hand provide you with the ability to overpower small support squads in backfield and being slightly harder (for non dedicated cc squads) to shift off objectives in cc. i would trade that ability for a couple of ineffective shots any day.<br /><br />and LSS arent thaaaat bad either, its the concept of thinking (vs driveurboxupshootshootwingame) that throws most people off though. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-78481580044087261842011-12-07T21:59:43.384-08:002011-12-07T21:59:43.384-08:00Who uses Land Speeder Storms? Or CC scouts outside...Who uses Land Speeder Storms? Or CC scouts outside of Wolves?Bond, Rick Bondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05784586841055061517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-90923824820549655162011-12-07T04:20:25.407-08:002011-12-07T04:20:25.407-08:00I would take 3 of those Marine boxes for a start a...I would take 3 of those Marine boxes for a start and end to a force!<br /><br />Think about it, you save $240 and spend about $650. But what you get with 60 Marines on the ground, 3x Pods/ LandRaiders /Dreads /Speeders /Command Squads (that can play as Vets too), this is almost done for me. <br /><br />I could work this force into 4 different armys easy, and adding a IC here or there could change everything.<br /><br />If I knew then what I know now about my spending habit I would easly save up and do this 3 times and be happy about it.Swagshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544144811601534136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-79489162945804045582011-12-07T03:34:35.268-08:002011-12-07T03:34:35.268-08:00@Duke:
You're right!
It would surely make sen...@Duke: <br />You're right!<br />It would surely make sense for such a expensiv box that one can play the game straight "out of the box" so there should always be the mandatory HQ and 2 Troops inside even if it means to put in a fail.. err finecast Model.<br />That would make these boxes a lot better as a starter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-32984772584836051762011-12-06T14:25:23.556-08:002011-12-06T14:25:23.556-08:00They do have fine cast though, yes it isn't pl...They do have fine cast though, yes it isn't plastic, but stil. They should have included an Archon.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975831209122743251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-79029507887388713962011-12-06T13:43:05.105-08:002011-12-06T13:43:05.105-08:00That was the first thing I noticed when I saw the ...That was the first thing I noticed when I saw the Megaforces. Everyone get's a HQ (also the WFB ones) but not the Dark Eldar. :-(<br />The reason for this seems pretty simple. Most other Armies have HQs in Plastic, but the DE don't. <br /><br />I suggest that every army without a plastic HQ won't get one in a Megaforce Box cause all models in such a box are plastic. No Execption.<br /><br />Sure you can convert one yourself but that wouldn't be the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-31103525354044581372011-12-06T12:56:32.133-08:002011-12-06T12:56:32.133-08:00@anon: Wow, you're right... There is no archon...@anon: Wow, you're right... There is no archon. I was going off looking at the small picture, I suppose you could convert the model up, but sometimes GW makes me scratch my head. You're right thought that The Space marine one is pretty decent.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975831209122743251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-68485653098803659522011-12-06T12:23:41.471-08:002011-12-06T12:23:41.471-08:00I cannot argue that both boxes are quite a bargain...I cannot argue that both boxes are quite a bargain.<br />Unfortunately the Dark Eldar Megaforce is unplayable as it is.<br />1. There is no HQ Unit (no Archon inside)<br />2. There are too many Reavers. They should have just put in 2 Boxes of Jetbikes and instead fill in another unit of Warriors.<br />I don't think many people will use that many Reavers in a typical (1750-2000 points) Dark Eldar Army.<br /><br />The Space Marine Megaforce is really great value with usable Units all over but what else would you guess for GW's Flagship Army. ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-44393090701628949762011-12-06T10:36:38.548-08:002011-12-06T10:36:38.548-08:00@brisbane: I'm working on another article base...@brisbane: I'm working on another article based on what you just said. Intro boxes should be small, equal points levels and legal armies... I know, crazy idea, right!? LolDukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975831209122743251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-43816292795851628072011-12-06T10:05:28.871-08:002011-12-06T10:05:28.871-08:00Well, instead of buying bigger boxes, why not just...Well, instead of buying bigger boxes, why not just make viable smaller boxes?<br /><br />215$ is a lot of cash to 'playtest' a new army.<br />95$ is a lot less. While it's awesome that the bigger boxes offer a better selection of models, it doesn't let GW off the hook.<br /><br />I'd say make the 95$ boxes legal, usable 500-750 point armies. Make them equal in power and points.Kinsmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04470818874100718617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-49380972833621544962011-12-06T10:04:55.650-08:002011-12-06T10:04:55.650-08:00I've gotten several of their big boxes in the ...I've gotten several of their big boxes in the past, one for SM and two CSM. Can't remember what they call them, but the "bigger than battlforce" ones, for like $110-140.<br /><br />Like all box deals, it's a deal IF you'll use all or most of the stuff in the box (or can trade/sell the things you won't use for a reasonable amount). If you want to play DE but have no interest in jetbikes, it's a lot less of a deal, for example.sonsoftaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466971377569066201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-67544320095142942582011-12-06T09:17:59.940-08:002011-12-06T09:17:59.940-08:00Ohhh, a limited edition model only acaloable with ...Ohhh, a limited edition model only acaloable with the boxed set would be great! Too bad they don't do that :(<br /><br />Also, I just noticed that I completely botched the retail prices of the big boxes... Don't write and feed a baby at the same time. Lol. However, the point still stands overall.<br /><br />DukeDukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975831209122743251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3196653280947071510.post-2582172867227225592011-12-06T08:30:59.852-08:002011-12-06T08:30:59.852-08:00I purchased several boxed armies back in the day w...I purchased several boxed armies back in the day when GW made them. As you pointed out even then the savings was huge and you got a ton of stuff that let you start playing and was legal. <br /><br />The old Necron Army was the Lord (metal), Spyders, Warriors with Scarabs, etc...<br /><br />Tomb Kings was the Priest, Standard Bearer, King/Prince Model, plenty of core and other goodies. <br /><br />They also had a clever perk of a "limited edition" model that made it more appealing for most boxed armies. Usually for Fantasy it was a Standard Bearer for example. <br /><br />GW really got away from good marketing.styxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10149216774007558819noreply@blogger.com